![]() So, we were down to about 60,000 by to the year 2000, and it really was the influx of successive waves of refugees through the State Department's Refugee Resettlement Program that helped to turn it around. A city that had over 100,000 people in 1960, had lost 40% of its population. Some would say it's still in that rough patch, I would say it's emerging from that. Well, Utica, like many of the cities along the old Erie Canal had hit a rough patch. How did Utica become so invested in refugee resettlement? Can you set the scene for us of how the city has been changing in recent decades? ![]() So, I was able to answer Loch’s questions and then we just took it from there. And so, when they were interested in the project, Loch called me to sort of sound me out on it, you know, did I think this was a viable story to tell and what did I know about it? As luck would have it, I had done and you have put on your air a number of stories about refugee resettlement in Utica, various aspects of it. I had known Loch for years through other projects and other collaborations we had done. Well, the project originated with the director Loch Phillipps and a cinematographer that he works with frequently, Adam Bedient, who’s a central New Yorker. I know this movie was made a couple of years ago.
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